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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending than in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of h
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending than in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white...
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that you'd get "fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff," but not "job crisis, job crisis, job crisis"? >> it tells me, quite frankly, that many of these people, who by the way did not have much to say about the deficit when we went to war in iraq and afghanistan and didn't pay for it, i didn't hear from any people in the media complaining about that. what it tells me is that behind the corporate drive for deficit reduction is a significant effort to try to cut social security, medicare, and medicaid and other programs that working families need, not so much because of deficit reduction, because this has been the agenda of republicans and right wingers for a very long time. >> so how do you see this fiscal debate playing out in the next couple of weeks? >> we have, those of us who say that deficit reduction is a serious issue, i believe it is. but believe very strongly that at a time when we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major country on earth, people on top doing phenomenally well, middle class is disappearing. that most americans agree with many of us
that you'd get "fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff," but not "job crisis, job crisis, job crisis"? >> it tells me, quite frankly, that many of these people, who by the way did not have much to say about the deficit when we went to war in iraq and afghanistan and didn't pay for it, i didn't hear from any people in the media complaining about that. what it tells me is that behind the corporate drive for deficit reduction is a significant effort to try to cut social security,...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> shortly after, house minority leader nancy pelosi put the blame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans' unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but while the president
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us...
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back and do need manufacturing jobs back and if congress gets past the fiscal cliff what you're going to start to see is there's been a groundwork laid for an economic renaissance in the united states, gas prices, natural gas prices have come down because we're finding so much of it and producing more oil. know there's a housing boom and there's been a resurgence in manufacturing. now the problem with manufacturing is not creating as many jobs. more manufacturing output but those are the areas we can concentrate on, energy, manufacturing and housing to create more jobs, and that's already kind of happening. government can only stand in the way of this right now by not getting the fiscal house in order. >> that's what's so important here because you want to see things looking forward, grow better than we have this year, the fiscal cliff in the way. republicans say if you raise taxes on the top 2% that will hurt small business and will kill jobs. talked to the ceo of fedex and he says, shall we say, there's mythology around that assumption. listen. >> the reality is the vast majority of
back and do need manufacturing jobs back and if congress gets past the fiscal cliff what you're going to start to see is there's been a groundwork laid for an economic renaissance in the united states, gas prices, natural gas prices have come down because we're finding so much of it and producing more oil. know there's a housing boom and there's been a resurgence in manufacturing. now the problem with manufacturing is not creating as many jobs. more manufacturing output but those are the areas...
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and the new jobs number, the fiscal cliff, all of it will be on the table when george stephanopoulos sits down with a turbocharged powerhouse round table. james carville, mary matalin and nobel prize-winning economist paul krugman, on sunday for "this week." >>> and now, we go overseas to syria, where people are fleeing amid fears that the assad regime will unleash chemical weapons. the region around the capital, damascus, now a battle zone. 2 million syrians now on the run, many of them children. and it is extremely difficult for journalists to enter that country and cover the chaos. but abc's alex marquardt pushed across the border tonight and he is there. alex? >> reporter: we've spent the day among the thousands of refugees living here, and the conditions are miserable. rain has turned the roads to rivers of mud, there's no power or gas for heat, and it's only getting colder by the day. the rain poured as we approached the crossing into syria. the first stop, a rebel checkpoint. tanks and men armed with ak-47s. once past them, a narrow, winding road that led us to white tents in
and the new jobs number, the fiscal cliff, all of it will be on the table when george stephanopoulos sits down with a turbocharged powerhouse round table. james carville, mary matalin and nobel prize-winning economist paul krugman, on sunday for "this week." >>> and now, we go overseas to syria, where people are fleeing amid fears that the assad regime will unleash chemical weapons. the region around the capital, damascus, now a battle zone. 2 million syrians now on the run,...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are we not
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the...
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fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if we go over the cliff. now, working for the cuts they will make if we do actually go over the cliff. a diner, middle-class taxpayers and the vice president, telling republicans a deal to extend tax cuts for all but the wealthy is easy. >> the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. >> reporter: not really. even though the two sides are talking, they aren't making much progress. remember that phone call between the president and the speaker a couple days ago? >> the phone call was pleasan
fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if...
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. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we have seen a lot of obstructionism from the republicans. trying to stop progress has z how they do business. latest move from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just might take the cake. he threatened to filibuster his own bill. mcconnell proposed legislation to give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling. under the plan, congress would need a two-thirds majority to stop him. it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to e
. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on...
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here's your invoice. >>> new job numbers, fiscal cliff talks, legalized marijuana, all the news was fodder for late night comedians this week. >> some good news, some good news. the u.s. unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been in four years. or as makers of sweatpants put it, uh-oh. >>> climate rate has fallen through its lowest level in nearly four years. the bad news, most of those jobs involve wearing a red suit, a beard and having a kid pee in your lap. >> house speaker john bainers says his efforts to work with president obama on the fiscal cliff have resulted in a lot of talk but no action. yeah. a lot of talk but no action, or as they call that in college a date. >> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. victor is off today. it's 9:00 on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. thanks so much for starting your day with us. we start this morning with the supreme court and the decision to hear two major cases on same-sex marriage. justices will hear arguments against the federal government's defense of marriage act and california's proposition eight. prop 8 banned same-sex marriage
here's your invoice. >>> new job numbers, fiscal cliff talks, legalized marijuana, all the news was fodder for late night comedians this week. >> some good news, some good news. the u.s. unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been in four years. or as makers of sweatpants put it, uh-oh. >>> climate rate has fallen through its lowest level in nearly four years. the bad news, most of those jobs involve wearing a red suit, a beard and having a kid pee in your lap....
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. >>> coming up, the fight over the fiscal cliff is putting american jobs at risk. one of these congressional members is lying about the problem. we'll use the newest job numbers to get to the truth next. >>> and republicans in michigan are ramming through antiunion legislation and hurting middle class americans in the process. the people of michigan are outraged. we're talking to lansing, michigan's mayor. we're right back. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. ve a cold,nouncer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a deconges
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these new job numbers, does this give the president a better position on the fiscal cliff talks? >> i don't think it changes very much. it's part of a continuing trend we've seen over the last three or four years, very steady but moderate job growth. i think as time passes clearly the president is holding the cards. his leverage becomes greater and greater. it's interesting speaker boehner canceled one day of business. he's already canceled one day of business next week. i think what he's trying to do is get his members out of town, out of washington so they can't coalesce under a strategy to undermine what he's doing. i think he's seriously looking through this. >>> let's listen to what he said during a press conference yesterday. this is speaker boehner. >> even if the president got the tax rate hike he wanted, understand we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. >> listen, washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> does the speaker have a point? >> well, not really. we do have a revenue problem. revenue is at the low
these new job numbers, does this give the president a better position on the fiscal cliff talks? >> i don't think it changes very much. it's part of a continuing trend we've seen over the last three or four years, very steady but moderate job growth. i think as time passes clearly the president is holding the cards. his leverage becomes greater and greater. it's interesting speaker boehner canceled one day of business. he's already canceled one day of business next week. i think what he's...
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. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm sandy couldn't wipe away his home, but something else did. >> she said are you sure your house is gone. miss, you misplace a pen or pencil, you don't misplace a house. >> clayton: vanished, that man will tell us how that house just vanished. "fox & friends" hour four starts right now. ♪ . [rooster crowing] >> welcome into "fox & friends" on this saturday morning, thanks so much for waking up with us. this is ainsley. >> ainsley: hi. >> clayton: in for ali and eric for dave and i'm the only one on the regular crew. >> ainsley: where did they go, to christmas parties and couldn't make it in? you never know we're focu
. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm...
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. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also go to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key to compromise. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35 to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and bide enshowed wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. this is not a negotiatiable issue. theoretically we could negotiate how far up. >> at a local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their acts together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: she said it, alex. now john boehner after that comment yesterday
. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also go to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much...
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. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united states from super power status. >> this president just won a big election and you would think that he would want to lead. >> we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cuts. >> tax cuts. the whole premise of tax cuts is going to be blamed for all of this economic mess. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking, christmas it coming, the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america, it's a very, very lean time. >> the reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> greta: with us is co-host of the five, greg gutfeld. he has a new book out, the joy of hate. he's been on a road trip having a book tour, so he has been talking to lots of people and they have been talking to him. so we want to know. are americans frustrated by the way
. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united states from super power status. >> this president just won a big election and you would think that he would want to lead. >> we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cuts. >> tax cuts. the whole premise of...
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aspercreme. >>> a positive jobs report on friday serves as another reminder that the fiscal cliff may be obscuring the fact that america is actually poised for an economic renaissance. short-term indicators are looking good. jobs are being created. consumer debt is shrinking. goldman sachs said last week despite a market rally this year, stocks can rise another 10 to 15% in 2013. forget silver lining. how about the golden lining around the economic cloud? with mortgage rates expected to stay low through 2014, home affordability is as good as it's been in generations. that's going to attract buyers who have b
aspercreme. >>> a positive jobs report on friday serves as another reminder that the fiscal cliff may be obscuring the fact that america is actually poised for an economic renaissance. short-term indicators are looking good. jobs are being created. consumer debt is shrinking. goldman sachs said last week despite a market rally this year, stocks can rise another 10 to 15% in 2013. forget silver lining. how about the golden lining around the economic cloud? with mortgage rates expected...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actually some pretty strong incentives for the president to take the country over the fiscal cliff. if you look at what the president's stance to gain if the country goes over the fiscal cliff, there are very clear and identifiable things. on the ne hand te president could idtify himself as a tax cutter. he could sa - on january 1st the president in terms of the country and say, now in favor of cutting these taxes that have been raised because we did not solve this before the fiscal cliff. he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can positi himself as sort ofthe protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear centives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff.
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actually some pretty strong incentives for the president to take the country over the fiscal cliff. if you look at what the president's stance to gain if the country goes over the fiscal cliff,...
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from the government point of view, everybody is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices. america needs jobs and growth. following the recommendations in our report will lead to both of those. it would be good for american business. >> i will start with senator alexander. tell me about energy policy and where it fits in with the fiscal cliff. what we will spend money on and how we were tightened our belts. >> the major place it fits is the right policy would create an environment which would produce a lot more revenue. that would help to reduce the debt. the federal government doesn't spend much money on energy. energy research is about $6 billion a year. i would like to see it doubled. this report is a blueprint for inde
from the government point of view, everybody is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices. america needs jobs and growth. following the...
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. >> heather: and facing this fiscal cliff, based on these job numbers, where do we need to be in order to serve that? >> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos unfolding in the middle east as egypt's military threatens the protestors there. syria preparing to unleash chemical weapons and people are scared seen here running for their lives to prevent two catastrophes from getting a whole lot worse. staechb yates will be with us next. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like ourender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of pe
. >> heather: and facing this fiscal cliff, based on these job numbers, where do we need to be in order to serve that? >> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos...
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. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: he and the president spoke by phone, only once all week, and it didn't produce much. >> just more of the same, it is time for the president to be serious, to come back to us with a counter offer. >> reporter: but what may have been most notable what was john boehner did not say. he did not repeat his demand to keep taxes cuts for the wealthy in place, the biggest issue that divides them, instead he said this. >> there are a lot of things possible for the revenue, to put on the table. but none of it will be possible if the president insists on his position, insists on my way, or the highway. >> reporter: aides to john boehner and the president who are doing the negotiating are tight-lipped. but others suggest possible compromise on the thorny tax issue. one, instead of raising the current tax rate on the wealthy from the 37% from the bush tax era, to 36%, as the president wants, pick a middle ground. republicans are so concerned about small b
. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: he and the president spoke by phone, only once all week, and it didn't produce much. >> just more of the same, it is time for the president to be serious, to come back to us with a counter offer. >> reporter: but what may have been most notable what was john boehner did not say. he did not repeat his demand to keep taxes cuts...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs. the white house has wasted another week. >> one sign of optimism is when he was pressed by a reporter about tax rates, he seemed to leave the door open about some flexibility of negotiating with the white house. vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is wiggle room on both sides. that may be where we get a deal if these two sides get together next week, shep. >> shepard: u.s. officials say the syrian regime has begun preparing for use a nerve gas, one that's capable of killing thousands of people. the question is is the syrian president bashar assad ready to unleash a chemical weapon on his own people. the latest analysis coming up. don't expect to start using your cell phones on airplanes. at least not yet. it could soon be okay to use your ipad, kindle and laptop takeoff and landing at least if one government heavy hitter gets his way.
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs. the white house has wasted another week. >> one sign of optimism is when he was pressed by a reporter about tax rates, he seemed to leave the door open about some flexibility of negotiating with the white house. vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is...
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. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house is has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle-class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35% to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city he
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jobs. the economy and the rocky negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff. let's start with the good news the slowly improving unemployment numbers. in november the nation added 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dipped to 7.7%, the lowest in nearly four years. so what's behind this improvement and what impact could it have on the overall economy and the fiscal cliff talks? we have some answers with the chief investment analyst at charles swhaub. >> were you surprised by these numbers? >> the payroll survey which is where we get the jobs created is generally a large company survey. so it may not pick up where the jobs were lost from the hurricane. the problem too is although the headline was positive the prior couple of months were revised down by a similar amount. i would say the report in general was about a neutral. >> also the fact the one employment rate dropped to 7.4% had a lot to do with fact people gave up looking for work. >> that's the rub. the headline is good. a big part of that reason is that over 300,000 people dropped out of the workforce
jobs. the economy and the rocky negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff. let's start with the good news the slowly improving unemployment numbers. in november the nation added 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dipped to 7.7%, the lowest in nearly four years. so what's behind this improvement and what impact could it have on the overall economy and the fiscal cliff talks? we have some answers with the chief investment analyst at charles swhaub. >> were you surprised by these numbers?...
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and buying more cars and supposedly if we avoid going over this fiscal cliff it will be good for the manufacturing sector. you are not saying happy days are here again, but there is cause for caution. >> i am saying let's not pop champagne bottles. let's see how this goes month after month for a period of six months. and then make a better a -- make a better assessment fnlt. >> if you were advising those people, kyle, who find themselves with smaller salaries, what do you say? >> i say be very protective over your job that you have now. continue to hone your skills in not only the job you have, but make sure -- you noy a lot of people are changing -- you know, a lot of people are changing careers to be productive in the workforce and to contribute. i think education is key. whether it be going to school part-time -- and i know these things cost money, but whether it be on-line or it be seeking some sort of education in another area to make sure that your skill set is diverse. >> you mentioned on-line. there is a lot of stuff on-line in a good way that you can actually gain some knowl
and buying more cars and supposedly if we avoid going over this fiscal cliff it will be good for the manufacturing sector. you are not saying happy days are here again, but there is cause for caution. >> i am saying let's not pop champagne bottles. let's see how this goes month after month for a period of six months. and then make a better a -- make a better assessment fnlt. >> if you were advising those people, kyle, who find themselves with smaller salaries, what do you say?...
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some analysts expected the job situation to improve but can't predict how bad the fiscal cliff will affect economic growth. here is dean maki at barclays capital. >> we had 146,000 jobs created. that are pretty much in line with the last two months and right in line with where we think the trend is right now. president obama's re-election clearly reduced one set of uncertainties which was who's going to win the election. we now know that he did win, but it hasn't reduced the uncertainty surrounding the fiscal cliff and what's going to happen there. if the full fiscal cliff were to occur, we'd expect a much worse outcome. probably a contraction in the 1% to 2% range in the first half of 2013. this is a very important issue. the economy was performing reasonably well in the months leading up to the potential fiscal cliff. we saw that in the job numbers for november. we've also seen it in the gdp numbers for the third quarter which rose 2.7% annualized. that doesn't ensure us against a downturn if the fiscal cliff does occur. >>> parliamentary endorsement of the plan will likely pave the way
some analysts expected the job situation to improve but can't predict how bad the fiscal cliff will affect economic growth. here is dean maki at barclays capital. >> we had 146,000 jobs created. that are pretty much in line with the last two months and right in line with where we think the trend is right now. president obama's re-election clearly reduced one set of uncertainties which was who's going to win the election. we now know that he did win, but it hasn't reduced the uncertainty...